Water Extreme+

GW section will often be out of date as GW setups are typically brainstormed in the months leading up to GW. Setups will typically be methods from the prior GW with minor updates for new content. Additionally, since GW bosses differ every run final setups won’t be known until GW actually begins.

Water Unite and Fight 2023

Characters

General

Ougi

Auto

Backline

Progression

The first goal for meat farming is being able to clear EX and EX+ in one turn. The easiest way to achieve this is with teamwide charge attacks. While there are a few ways to do this, the easier way is with Relic’s Limit burst. Although the setups below are fairly optimal for this level, they cover the basic methods to this level of OTK. For weaker grids, additional button presses for strong buffs or skills and summon calls may be needed to reach that one turn. Ultimately, the goal will be to reduce the button presses as much as possible to make meat farming faster, but having a reliable one turn kill is the highest priority.

From here on out, the way to improve OTKs is by reducing lockout, the time between turns. Different actions increase lockout with the bigest being from CA chains. The chain lockout reduces with fewer CAs with a 4 chain being significantly more than 3 chain. Using the extra 10% starting charge from the wonder for unlocking every eternal, eternals can start with 100% charge with double Huanglong and crew buffs with zero button presses. Any charge behind them will also CA unless they have reduced charge gain. This is the core to 0B3C, 0B2C, and 0B1C setups. Alternatively, chains can be avoided altogether with a single button press or a strong summon call. Due to avoiding a chain, they can be faster 2C.

In the final stages, ping plays the greatest inhibitor in going faster. While time can be shaved by further reducing actions by using tag team skills instead of attacking, no boss action, or reducing the number of characters attacking, if you don’t notice the reduced lockout on your ping, you have hit your speed limit. As a result, some people may run Kaguya as a support and/or main summon to help increase drops per run. It should be noted while this does offer a notable increase in drops, it is not notable enough to take a major speed hit for it. But if you already hit your limit it will make meat farming faster.

Lockout

Lockout Calculation Table

Setups

2B4C

Relic Buster
Lyria (Event)
Vane (SSR)
Romeo
Main
Friend
Sub
Leviathan Omega
The Moon (SSR)
Bahamut
Exo Antaeus
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Leviathan Gaze Omega
Leviathan Gaze Omega
Clarion
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Wand of Charmtide
Staff of Renunciation

Rotation

Notes
  • Every character is replaceable with anyone with skill nukes like Juliet or Sturm or with a large ougi like Vania and Malinda.
  • Lecia (Water) can be slotted backline for more damage.
  • Support Bahamut can be Lucifer or Leviathan.

1B4C

Warlock
Zeta (Water)
Vane (SSR)
Romeo
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
The Moon (SSR)
Huanglong
Staff of Renunciation
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Colomba
Colomba
Bow of Sigurd
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Wand of Charmtide
Fateless

Rotation

Rotation
  1. Splitting Spirit. Attack.
Notes
  • Uses splitting spirit to reach 4 chain.
  • Every character is replaceable with anyone with skill nukes like Juliet or Sturm or with a large ougi like Vampy.
  • Lecia can be slotted backline for more damage.

0B6C1S

Rising Force
Vajra
Lyria (Event)
Romeo
Main
Friend
Sub
Leviathan Omega
The Moon (SSR)
Bonito
Dante Alighieri
Tyros Zither
Leviathan Gaze Omega
Leviathan Gaze Omega
Xeno Glacial Dream Staff
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Xuanwu Mace Malus
Bow of Sigurd
Wand of Charmtide
Staff of Renunciation

Rotation

Notes
  • Bonito allows for easy charge bar fill for all characters especially for 200 bar characters.
  • Every character is replaceable with anyone with skill nukes like Juliet or Sturm or with a large ougi like Vania and Malinda.
  • Lecia (Water) can be slotted backline for more damage.

0B3C

Rising Force
Uno/Anre
Romeo
Zeta (Water)
Lecia (Water)
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
The Moon (SSR)
Huanglong
Dante Alighieri
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Colomba
Colomba
Fateless
Pistol of Bahamut Coda
Wand of Charmtide
Staff of Renunciation
Notes
  • The standard 3 chain setup.
  • Uno can be replaced with Feower.
  • Every other character is replaceable with anyone with skill nukes or a large ougi though will be tight with the HP increase.
    • If replacing Romeo and keeping Zeta, you can move her to Slot 2 and run Charlotta in backline for more damage.

1B1C

Warlock
Zeta (Water)
Yodarha (SSR)
Gwynne
Main
Friend
Sub
Leviathan Omega
Belial
Bahamut
The Moon (SSR)
Staff of Renunciation
Ancient Auberon
Ancient Auberon
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Ancient Auberon
Ancient Auberon
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Wand of Charmtide
Fateless

Rotation

Notes
  • Uses Falsehood ougi for teamwide double strike.
  • Narmaya and V.Grim can be replaced with other GTA characters.
  • S.Anila can be replaced with Nio or Estarriola.

0B2C

Cavalier
Poseidon
Uno/Anre
Zeta (Water)
Lecia (Water)
Charlotta
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Belial
Belial (Summer)
Huanglong
Gabriel
The Moon (SSR)
Exo Antaeus
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Schrodinger
Schrodinger
Schrodinger
Pistol of Bahamut Coda
Ultima Spear
Staff of Renunciation
Chrysaor
Uno/Anre
Lancelot (Grand)
Wamdus
Lecia (Water)
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Belial
Huanglong
The Moon (SSR)
Gabriel
Schrodinger
Sette di Spade
Sette di Spade
Rise of Justice
Sette di Spade
Sette di Spade
Murgleis
Schrodinger
Ultima Blade
Staff of Renunciation
Chrysaor
Uno/Anre
Lancelot (Grand)
Wamdus
Lecia (Water)
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Belial
Huanglong
The Moon (SSR)
Gabriel
Schrodinger Mk II
Schrodinger Mk II
Schrodinger Mk II
Rise of Justice
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Tyros Zither
Reflection of The Moon
Ultima Blade
Staff of Renunciation
Notes

0B0C1S

Cavalier
Zeta (Water)
Poseidon
Gwynne
Main
Friend
Sub
Beelzebub
Belial
Kaguya
The Moon (SSR)
Exo Antaeus
Exo Antaeus
Exo Antaeus
Fateless
Exo Antaeus
Exo Antaeus
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Dragon Bar V
Wand of Charmtide
Staff of Renunciation
Iatromantis
Zeta (Water)
Poseidon
Gwynne
Main
Friend
Sub
Beelzebub
Belial
Kaguya
The Moon (SSR)
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Fateless
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Xuanwu Mace Malus
Dragon Bar V
Wand of Charmtide
Staff of Renunciation

Rotation

Notes
  • Bubs call deals large damage and increases damage output for other characters.
  • Character and grid choices are very flexible.
  • Character replacements can be GTA characters or ones with skill nukes.

0B1C

Paladin
Zeta (Water)
Poseidon
Ferry (SSR)
Main
Friend
Sub
Bahamut
Belial
Huanglong
The Moon (SSR)
Gabriel
Sword of Renunciation
Schrodinger Mk II
Schrodinger Mk II
Schrodinger Mk II
Leviathan Gaze Omega
Leviathan Gaze Omega
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Gospel of Water and Sky
Gospel of Water and Sky
Ultima Spear
Notes
  • Requires very optimal rings if no Perp Rings.
    • Stamina 10 and Supp 10.
  • Baha main can be Lucifer 250 or Europa FLB

0B0C

Iatromantis

Iatromantis
Gwynne
Zeta (Water)
Poseidon
Main
Friend
Sub
Varuna
Belial (Summer)
Belial (Summer)
Gabriel
Lucifer
The Moon (SSR)
Wamdus
Bident
Galilei’s Insight
Taisai Spirit Bow
Taisai Spirit Bow
Erichthonius Militis
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Blue Sphere
Staff of Renunciation
Ultima Spear

Reference Video

Notes
  • Requires a strong grid and is safest done by primal.
  • Replacements for Gwynne are Anne and Lancelot (Grand).

Manadiver

Manadiver
Poseidon
Zeta (Water)
Wamdus
Kolulu (Summer)
Main
Friend
Sub
Princess Long Ji
Belial
Belial (Summer)
Gabriel
Leviathan Omega
The Moon (SSR)
Staff of Renunciation
Ancient Auberon
Ancient Auberon
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Ancient Auberon
Ancient Auberon
Wamdus’s Cnidocyte
Wilhelm Militis
Wilhelm Militis
Ultima Spear
Manadiver
Poseidon
Zeta (Water)
Gabriel
Main
Friend
Sub
Princess Long Ji
Belial
Gabriel
Lucifer
The Moon (SSR)
Halluel and Malluel
Staff of Renunciation
Schrodinger
Schrodinger
Schrodinger
Schrodinger
Schrodinger
Schrodinger
Schrodinger
Reflection of The Moon
Ultima Staff

Reference Video: Magna

Reference Video: Primal

Notes
  • Requires reaching 100% TA on both Gabriel and MC.
    • 49% from Schrodingers.
    • 25% from Ultima’s strife key
    • 10% from Gabriel EMPs
    • 10% from Halluel and Malluel
    • 6% from Earrings/Rings
  • Magna version may fail depending on Wamdus counter.

1B Only

Soldier

Soldier
Zeta (Water)
Lyria (Event)
Erika
Main
Friend
Sub
Beelzebub
Belial
Kaguya
The Moon (SSR)
Gabriel
Hraesvelgr
Exo Antaeus
Exo Antaeus
Koukouvagia Militis
I
II
III
IV
V
VI
Exo Antaeus
Exo Antaeus
Staff of Renunciation
Pistol of Bahamut Coda
Schrodinger Mk II
Ultima Gun
Soldier
Zeta (Water)
Main
Friend
Sub
Kaguya
Belial
Kaguya
The Moon (SSR)
Gabriel
Hraesvelgr
Exo Antaeus
Exo Antaeus
Koukouvagia Militis
I
II
III
IV
V
VI
Exo Antaeus
Exo Antaeus
Staff of Renunciation
Blue Sphere
Murgleis
Ultima Gun

Rotation

Reference Video

Notes
  • Very low lockout since it uses skill lockout.
  • Lyria (Event), [[c|erika]]], and Sakura Kinomoto are options for the 2nd and 3rd character slots if additional damage is needed.
  • Kag x Kag requires Belial Bullets.

Luchador

Luchador
Poseidon
Zeta (Water)
Gabriel
Main
Friend
Sub
Beelzebub
Belial
Gabriel
Bahamut
The Moon (SSR)
Halluel and Malluel
Lagrange Mk II
Schrodinger Mk II
Schrodinger Mk II
Bow of Sigurd Militis
Leviathan Gaze Omega
Leviathan Gaze Omega
Staff of Renunciation
Gospel of Water and Sky
Gospel of Water and Sky
Ultima Staff

Rotation

Reference Video

Notes
  • Requires reaching 100% TA on both Gabriel and MC.
    • Has very high ring and AX requirements. Example grid has 2x 3% TA Levi daggers and 18% TA via rings on Gabriel.

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