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Progression

The first goal for meat farming is being able to clear EX and EX+ in one turn. The easiest way to achieve this is with teamwide charge attacks. While there are a few ways to do this, the easier way is with Relic’s Limit burst. Although the setups below are fairly optimal for this level, they cover the basic methods to this level of OTK. For weaker grids, additional button presses for strong buffs or skills and summon calls may be needed to reach that one turn. Ultimately, the goal will be to reduce the button presses as much as possible to make meat farming faster, but having a reliable one turn kill is the highest priority.

From here on out, the way to improve OTKs is by reducing lockout, the time between turns. Different actions increase lockout with the bigest being from CA chains. The chain lockout reduces with fewer CAs with a 4 chain being significantly more than 3 chain. Using the extra 10% starting charge from the wonder for unlocking every eternal, eternals can start with 100% charge with double Huanglong and crew buffs with zero button presses. Any charge behind them will also CA unless they have reduced charge gain. This is the core to 0B3C, 0B2C, and 0B1C setups. Alternatively, chains can be avoided altogether with a single button press or a strong summon call. Due to avoiding a chain, they can be faster 2C.

In the final stages, ping plays the greatest inhibitor in going faster. While time can be shaved by further reducing actions by using tag team skills instead of attacking, no boss action, or reducing the number of characters attacking, if you don’t notice the reduced lockout on your ping, you have hit your speed limit. As a result, some people may run Kaguya as a support and/or main summon to help increase drops per run. It should be noted while this does offer a notable increase in drops, it is not notable enough to take a major speed hit for it. But if you already hit your limit it will make meat farming faster.

Lockout

Lockout, as stated before, is the time between actions the player that they are unable to perform another action. Lockout variest heavily on the type of actions performed. This also carries between battles. So with a high enough lockout and fast enough reset between battles the player will limited by this time they can’t perform an action. This is most notcible with CA chains where even with bad ping it is easy to run into lockout.

Below is a table showing how to calculate lockout for those interested in figuring their exact lockout.

ActionLockout (seconds)Comments
Base Attack1Base lockout that occurs when the attack button is pressed.
Action0.35Lockout that occurs on any action like a normal attack, skill press, or CA. For double and triple attacks, this is doubled (0.7) and tripled (1.05).
Enemy Turn~1.6For EX+ averages to 1.6.

Enemy Turn + (Enemy Action + Overdrive + Trigger) * Enemy Modifer = ~1.6
Counter0
Skill Nuke0
Passive Nuke0
Chainburst0
2 CAs5
3 CAs7
4 CAs9
5+ CAs10
Multistrike0Uses the lockout of the highest action performed rather than counting all actions done.

Triple Strike with 9 total TAs = 3*0.35 = 1.05s instead of 3.15s.
Single Attack => Triple Attack = 3*0.35 = 1.05s.
Instant Attack0.35 per character that attacksFor a teamwide attack like Tag Team All allies instantly perform a normal attack without using up a turn. this will be 4*0.35 or 1.4 total lockout. This will be the same regardless of how many attacks they actually perform.
Summon Calls0.35

Lockout (s) = 1 (Self Turn) + 0.35(Self Actions) + Chainburst + 1.6 (Enemy Action)

Additional Reference

Characters

Below is a short list of characters useful for OTK and what they provide. For more information check the OTK character section or use GBFAS to search for specific mechanics.

Notation

For GW, setups are commonly abrieviated based on both the number of buttons that are used (B) and the number CAs used (C). So if a setup reads 2B4C that means it uses 2 buttons and 4 CAs. Additionally, Summon calls will be abbreviated as (S).

Charge Attacks Setups

The following setups focus primarily on using Charge Attacks to defeat the boss. CA setups have higher lockout than Normal Attack setups making them slower overall but are easier to begin with and have more available character options.

2B4C

Relic Buster provides a very easy way for full teamwide charge thanks to Limit Burst All allies gain Charge Bar, C.A. DMG Boosted (1 time), and C.A. DMG Cap Boosted (1 time) based on number of Machine Cell.
(Consumes all Machine Cell.)
. This provides the base for the most basic form of OTK. Character selection is very flexible. Additional buttons or summon calls can be added as needed for weaker grids

Relic Buster
Lyria (Event)
Lelouch Lamperouge
Zoro and Sanji
Main
Friend
Sub
Celeste Omega
Death (SSR)
Bahamut
Qilin Sword
Abyss Spine
Abyss Spine
Abyss Spine
Agonize
Agonize
Zechariah
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Scythe of Darkherald
Katana of Renunciation

Rotation

Notes
  • Every character is replaceable with anyone with skill nukes like Vaseraga or with a large CA like Summer Amira.

1B4C

Having main and support Huanglong along with the crew buffs provides 90% charge to everyone. Using Full Arsenal III or Splitting Spirit Convert caster’s HP to charge bar (3% charge bar for every 250 HP consumed, up to 100% charge bar).
(Consumes up to 50% of current HP.)
you can 4C with only a single button press.

Runeslayer
Seox
Lelouch Lamperouge
Zoro and Sanji
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Death (SSR)
Huanglong
Katana of Renunciation
Abyss Spine
Abyss Spine
Abyss Spine
Fediel’s Spine
Fediel’s Spine
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Agonize
Agonize
Scythe of Darkherald

Rotation

Notes
  • Every character is replaceable with anyone with skill nukes or a large CA.

0B3C

An upgraded way to use the 90% charge from double huanglong is using the 10% charge from the Eternal Wonder on Seox to launch a 3C without any button presses. Alternatively, the character Cendrillon has 100% starting change and can fill the same role.

Cavalier
Seox
Lelouch Lamperouge
Zoro and Sanji
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Death (SSR)
Huanglong
Bismarck
Abyss Spine
Abyss Spine
Agonize
Fediel’s Spine
Fediel’s Spine
Agonize
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Scythe of Darkherald
Katana of Renunciation
Chrysaor
Bowman
Seox
Kolulu
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Belial
Death (SSR)
Huanglong
Celeste Omega
Sariel
Fediel’s Spine
Fediel’s Spine
Abyss Spine
Abyss Spine
Celeste Grace Ater
Agonize
Agonize
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Katana of Renunciation
Scythe of Darkherald
Notes
  • Six can be replaced by Cendrillon
  • Every other character is replaceable with anyone with skill nukes or a large CA.

0B2C

0B2C requires much stronger characters and a much stronger grid that prior setups. The lockout for 0B2C setups can actually have longer lockout than 0B3C setups if you can do 0B3C without relying on boss action.

Chrysaor
Veight
Seox
Kolulu
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Belial
Death (SSR)
Huanglong
Celeste Omega
Sariel
Fediel’s Spine
Fediel’s Spine
Abyss Spine
Abyss Spine
Celeste Grace Ater
Agonize
Agonize
Covenant-Ruin Fist
Katana of Renunciation
Scythe of Darkherald
Chrysaor
Bowman
Seox
Kolulu
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Belial
Death (SSR)
Huanglong
Celeste Omega
Sariel
Fediel’s Spine
Fediel’s Spine
Pain and Suffering
Pain and Suffering
Celeste Grace Ater
Agonize
Agonize
Covenant-Ruin Fist
Katana of Renunciation
Scythe of Darkherald
Notes

Normal Attack Setups

The following setups used Normal Attack to defeat the boss. They are faster than CA setups since they have much lower lockout. The lockout is low enough that even pressing a button or two can be faster than most CA setups.

Bubs Attack

Calling Beelzebub is much easier than 0B2C thanks to both taking out a large chunk HP as well as the strength of the Bore debuff. Additionally, despite the call it is faster as well due to lower lock. Make sure to use a short animation skin like Rose Queen or Bellringer Angel]. Alternatively, Triple Zero can be used but make sure to turn CAs off with it.

Apsaras
Zoro and Sanji
Wulf and Renie
Predator (SSR)
Main
Friend
Sub
Beelzebub
Belial
Death (SSR)
Celeste Omega
Celeste Zaghnal Omega
Celeste Zaghnal Omega
Celeste Zaghnal Omega
Vynateya Militis
Abydos
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Fediel’s Spine
Dragon Bar V
Katana of Renunciation
Scythe of Darkherald

Rotation

Notes
  • Character replacements can be GTA characters or ones with skill nukes.

1B1C

The CA effect of the Falsehood chain provides teamwide double strike. Thus with a simple press to Full Arsenal III or Splitting Spirit Convert caster’s HP to charge bar (3% charge bar for every 250 HP consumed, up to 100% charge bar).
(Consumes up to 50% of current HP.)
you can have 6 rounds of ally normal attacks.

Runeslayer
Bowman
Zoro and Sanji
Predator (SSR)
Main
Friend
Sub
Celeste Omega
Death (SSR)
Bahamut
Katana of Renunciation
Celeste Zaghnal Omega
Celeste Zaghnal Omega
Celeste Zaghnal Omega
Abydos
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Fediel’s Spine
Agonize
Vynateya Militis
Scythe of Darkherald
Notes
  • Chain of falsehood grants teamwide double strike.
  • Lower lockout than 0B2C and above.
  • Characters can be any characters with GTA.

0B0C

At peak, you can avoid pressing any buttons for a normal attack setup. This can be pretty restrictive character wise with only a few as valid options for Kaguya support setup.

Manadiver
Bowman
Seox
Zoro and Sanji
Main
Friend
Sub
Beelzebub
Belial
Belial (Summer)
Celeste Omega
Death (SSR)
Sariel
Exo Hamartia
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Covenant-Ruin Fist
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Katana of Renunciation
Celeste Saber Ater
Celeste Saber Ater
Ultima Claw
Manadiver
Bowman
Seox
Ilsa (Yukata)
Main
Friend
Sub
Beelzebub
Belial
Belial (Summer)
Kaguya
Death (SSR)
Sariel
Forbidden Agastia Mk II
Forbidden Agastia Mk II
Forbidden Agastia Mk II
Forbidden Agastia Mk II
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Covenant-Ruin Fist
Pain and Suffering
Katana of Renunciation
Ultima Claw
Notes
  • Zoro and Bowman can be replaced with any character with GTA or reactive nukes.

0B1C Manadiver

1C setups have lower lockout than 0C ones. Additionally, the CA makes it a lot easier to run Double Kaguya.

Manadiver
Bowman
Seox
Cendrillon
Main
Friend
Sub
Kaguya
Belial
Sariel
Kaguya
Death (SSR)
Celeste Omega
Exo Hamartia
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Covenant-Ruin Fist
Fediel’s Spine
Worldbreaking Tauros
Katana of Renunciation
Agonize
Agonize
Ultima Claw
Manadiver
Bowman
Lelouch Lamperouge
Cendrillon
Main
Friend
Sub
Celeste Omega
Belial
Sariel
Kaguya
Death (SSR)
Celeste Omega
Exo Hamartia
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Covenant-Ruin Fist
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Katana of Renunciation
Celeste Saber Ater
Celeste Saber Ater
Ultima Claw

Reference Video

Notes

0B1C Soldier

Uses SUBHL bullet to force MC to single attack and reduce lockout while not sacrificing damage.

Soldier
Bowman
Seox
Vikala (Event)
Main
Friend
Sub
Huanglong
Belial
Celeste Omega
Huanglong
Death (SSR)
Sariel
Pistol of Bahamut Coda
Pain and Suffering
Pain and Suffering
Celeste Zaghnal Omega
I
II
III
IV
V
VI
Fediel’s Spine
Fediel’s Spine
Katana of Renunciation
Agonize
Agonize
Scythe of Darkherald
Notes

Ereshkigal

Another option for a 0B1C setup. With strong enough characters and grid, you can do Kag x Kag without relying on boss action.

Apsaras
Bowman
Seox
Zoro and Sanji
Main
Friend
Sub
Kaguya
Belial
Belial (Summer)
Kaguya
Death (SSR)
Sariel
Ereshkigal
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Covenant-Ruin Fist
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Katana of Renunciation
Agonize
Agonize
Scythe of Darkherald
Apsaras
Cidala (Valentine)
Ilsa (Yukata)
Meg (Summer)
Main
Friend
Sub
Kaguya
Belial
Kaguya
Death (SSR)
Sariel
Ereshkigal
Celeste Grace Ater
Celeste Grace Ater
Covenant-Ruin Fist
Forbidden Agastia Mk II
Forbidden Agastia Mk II
Katana of Renunciation
Forbidden Agastia Mk II
Forbidden Agastia Mk II
Ultima Axe
Notes
  • Can use any GTA character or character with a reactive nuke.

Summon Only

The last potential option is to use only a single summon call. This floor on this is very high and it requires a couple of untixable summons.

Triple Zero

The absurd damage output of Triple Zero’s call can be amplified enough to take out EX+ by itself.

Warlock
Main
Friend
Sub
Triple Zero
Belial
Bahamut
Bahamut
Sariel
Death (SSR)
Trick Stick
Bismarck
Bismarck
Worldstorming Aetos
Agonize
Agonize
Fediel’s Spine
Dagger of Bahamut Coda
Katana of Renunciation
Scythe of Darkherald
Warlock
Arthur and Mordred
Niyon
Sutera (SSR)
Katzelia
Main
Friend
Sub
Triple Zero
Belial
Belial (Summer)
Bahamut
Bahamut
Raphael
Piercing Galewing
Piercing Galewing
Daur da Blao
Daur da Blao
Claíomh Solais Díon
Ewiyar’s Beak
Ewiyar’s Beak
Worldstorming Aetos
Spear of Renunciation
Ultima Staff
Notes

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One response to “Dark Extreme+ 2024”

  1. For Triple Zero, the Melee Fist with Special Awakening works too if you don’t have two special guns, as does a Parazonium MH with ATK Awakening (and on that note, likely MKII as well). You can do with 240 Bahamut as well.

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